Thursday, March 22, 2012

Special Guest-Logan Hawkes

Thank you Logan, for coming on my blog as a guest. This means so much to me! I thought I would ask you some questions and then my blog fans can ask questions themselves, in the comment box. As you know, I too am writing a novel and it will have the Ancient Alien theory mixed into the story. Of course, I won't give away too much of my book, because I want people to buy it and enjoy the story. It is going to be a series of books with the underline story having to do with the "Sky Gods" and has been a lot of fun to write! So on to the first question.

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Tell us a little about yourself, are you married with children/grandchildren?

ANSWER: Thanks for having me on your wonderful blog Lisa. I am honored. Married, yes. My wife Carla and I have been married a long time. I have five sons and a handful of grand children - proud of every one of them. One son, my youngest, still lives at home.

I know that you used to live here in Colorado and you were on the radio. What got you into that business and are you still doing some radio?

ANSWER: You never really escape radio once you have worked in it for a while. I think I have retired from it, but I have said that in the past as well and seem to return from time to time for whatever reason. Actually I am trying not to work in radio anymore. I am trying to work less and less and spend more time doing my own projects. But I have been trying to that for years - sometimes with a little success. But I am also- a writer by trade, for magazines, news sources, and such, and that takes up a lot of my time. But for the most part it is a labor of love. I enjoy writing, some things more than others of course.

What type of work are you doing now? I know you are on segments of the Ancient Alien series on History Channel, but you had mentioned to me that you have your own business.

ANSWER: My wife and I are partners in a small media company. We are content providers for a number of clients including Penton Media, New York Times,, America Online, a couple of wire services and such. We have a few travel sites we maintain, a few we manage for others, provide audio and video support for other clients, and do audio production as well. Being a contractor is a wonderful thing on the one hand. The other side of that is that when a good contract comes along, it can be time demanding. For example, Penton Media is the largest magazine publisher in the world with literally hundreds of titles, both consumer and trade publications. I started working with them some 13-14 years ago to fill a temporary gap and am still going strong - stronger than ever in fact. We also still provide audio production services for a couple of radio groups.

What is it like to be on such a popular show as Ancient Aliens, and what got you started on the show?

ANSWER: You know Lisa, I never really imagined being on AA or any other show for that matter. It just happened. I received an unexpected call from one of the producers one day a few years back and they had a few questions about something I had written a few years back. After a rather lengthy exchange they asked if I would be interested in filming a guest segment. Now I am not much for being on camera. I have worked years in the radio industry and have produced and edited a little film and video in the past. I enjoy working with actors, but from a technical, directorial point of view. I don’t even like hearing myself on the radio, and certainly am not interested in seeing myself. But I can be myself behind a microphone, but rarely in front of a camera. So - the truth be told - I don’t really care much for being on camera. But I enjoy the Ancient Aliens series so much and my wife, being a former film actress, is always encouraging me to step out and do something different, I reluctantly agreed to the interview. Depending on how you look at it, it went downhill from there because they kept calling me back season after season and I kept trying to get comfortable with the idea. The truth is, I am one of those people that have so many irons in the fire. If I lived a couple of hundred years I still wouldn’t be able to get around to doing everything I would like to do, so finding the time to research and prepare for each season and the many episode in which I have appeared has been a challenge. And once you start something like I have learned, the more the phone starts ringing. I did an episode of William Shatner’s Canadian TV series, have made a few dozen guest appearances on Internet and commercial radio shows, have been interviewed by a handful of magazines and such…and now I just ask Carla to answer the phone. Having said all of that, I have certainly enjoyed working with the AA folks and can’t seem to stop, although I am trying to slow down and get back to work on projects that have been placed on the back burner. But my heart keeps me involved, and not sure I could ever say no when they call.

Do you believe in the Ancient Alien theory, and if so, why?

ANSWER: Sure I do. I may not agree with everything that others believe about it. As a researcher, I find myself to be rather skeptical about accepting everything at face value. The problem for me is that I can not prove everything that I believe or theorize, so I tend to be a little conservative in my arguments. But the truth be known, I think it is foolish to think we as a species - the human species - are the center of the universe and that all of infinite space is empty and void of life. I think we are like a grain of sand on a beach that stretches eternally on and that there is more than just a remote possibility that we are not the only game in town - so to speak. Yes, I believe there are other intelligent life forms “out there”, and I believe it is highly probable they have visited out neck of the woods on multiple occasions. I would be surprised if they are here now even as we speak. And I also believe there is a strong possibility that at one time or another in our ancient past that we were the nothing more than visitors to this green rock we call earth.

I really enjoyed your fictional book, Close Encounters of the Old West. but I understand your most recent novel, Ancient Aliens of the Americas, is more a non-fiction about investigating the Ancient Alien theory. Can you elaborate?

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ANSWER: My grandmother, rest her soul, was a full blood Cherokee, and on top of that I have a little Cheyenne blood from the other side of the family. Native Americans, especially the ancient variety, were a lot more advanced than most people realize, and their knowledge was much greater than ours when it comes to such things. I know that many of them believe visitors from the stars have traveled to and from the Earth in the past, so I have spent a great deal of time researching and studying ancient myth and lore in an attempt to uncover forgotten truths. The AAA book just touches the surface of that research, in fact, hardly gets into very deeply at all. That would require volumes. The book is little more than an introduction into Native American and ancient beliefs in extraterrestrial life. As far as Close Encounters of the Old West is concerned, the idea was born out of research of real historical incidents of alien visitation and undocumented reports of actual events. Sometimes - when you are trying to fill in the blanks - you want to connect the dots with a little reasonable speculation for the sake of making a story sing. It is fiction of course, but fiction with a bite, based upon research uncovered down through the years. Just a quick note about both books: I never really intended to write these books. They started out as either notes about research or just plain dabbling with written word for self amusement. Some one, and I won’t mention who, talked me into sharing those written words and had agreed they would clean it up, edit it carefully and present it back tome for review before publishing. The best laid plans of mice and men - as they say - didn’t work out very for me because unfortunately both of these book went to press without my final draft review, and the number of typos and mistakes and such were disappointing to me, even a little embarrassing. If I had it to do over again I would never agree to do it that way. I would insist on more editorial control and would not have allowed others to go forward with work with my name on it without proper control. But it is water under the bridge. One day - when I can find the time - I will correct all those mistakes personally and perhaps republish a second edition that will have all the t’s crossed and I’s dotted. Or maybe not. Time is something that seems to torture me. There is just never enough of it.

Do you have a new book that you are working on, and if so, can you tell us a little bit about it?

ANSWER: Every writer has a book they are working on, but - as mentioned above - never again will I allow work get off my desk until I have finished it. So perhaps we could talk about this another time.

As most people that know me know I am a strong believer in the basic Ancient Alien theory, and I have read some of the beliefs of Native American tribes. I know that you are Native American; can you tell us about your basic roots and the tribe's belief in how they got here?

ANSWER: I guess some of this in a previous answer. But to elaborate a little, my grandmother’s family was one of those eastern Cherokee groups that left the Carolinas a number of years before Andrew Jackson’s betrayal and the Trail of Tears. Those were horrible years if you know anything about Cherokee history. My people’s family were know as Old Settlers because they split from the main tribe and headed West and eventually in Northwestern Arkansas and southern Missouri. A few made their way into Oklahoma before it was designated Indian territory and even south into east Texas, where they were betrayed again, this time by the early Texans who promised them independence if they agreed not to fight against them in their war for independence with Mexico. It didn’t work out so well for them I am afraid and most of them were massacred because the Texans feared them - this after the Texans contracted them to chase the Comanche out of settler territories. They were the only ones fierce enough to do that. Anyway, I could go on far too long here, but I will add that my grandmother’s people were know as Keetowah Cherokee, the traditionalists, and my great grandfather was known as TenKiller -  name I used in the Close Encounter book.

And last but not least, what is your personal theory on the Mayan calendar/prophecy for 12-21-12? Do you think we will still be here?

ANSWER: Contrary to what many of my colleagues believe, and as a student of Maya lore, I don’t believe we have a single thing to worry about when December rolls around this year, except maybe whether you have your Christmas shopping done yet or not. Could the world end when the planets align with the great rift? Sure. The world could end tomorrow, or the day after, or any given moment for that matter. Do I believe the Maya were warning us of a cataclysmic event? No, I don’t. I spent a number of years living with and working with many Maya back in the 80s, one of them the son of a noted and powerful timekeeper/priest. I learned many things about these wonderful people, and am still confused about many more things about their ancient history. One thing I will share with is that I believe modern archeology is terribly wrong to think the Mesoamerican cultures date only a far back as 22-25 centuries - some say even less. I contend they, or their ancestors have been around for at least 5,000 years, and I suspect as much as 12,000 years or more. To the Maya, as with most ancient American cultures, their history and esoteric knowledge is their power, and they do a wonderful job of keeping it to themselves. Not even the casual members of their own cultures know what a select few of them do. I assure you this is true. And they do not like to share this with outside cultures. They even enjoy offering misinformation so as to keep people off the real track of truth. And I, for one, don’t blame them.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions. I hope that some of my blog followers have their own questions and for those of you that ask questions of Logan or have comments, your name will be put into a drawing to win one of Logan's books, Ancient Aliens of the Americas.

Logan, my husband and I look forward to watching for you on the show each Friday and shows in the future! Take care and I hope your success continues in Ancient Aliens, and in your novels! Thank You!

ANSWER: Thank you Lisa. It has been my pleasure. You have a wonderful blog!


  1. Logan, Again thank you for being my guest! I guess everyone has not had a chance to sit down and read yet and get a question to you, but I am sure they will soon! I have one for you, I am re-reading your first book and I am at the part where Grey Wolf describes the ancient stories of the seven tribes. Are those the true legends of the Cherokee? If so, very interesting! I really enjoyed them! My curiosity is piqued!

  2. One more thing Lisa. I see my haste has caused me to rush through my answer above and should quickly correct one of the statements concerning the historical dates of the Maya. Most scholars place the Maya in Mesoamerica 2,000-5,000 years ago (not 22-25 centuries). I believe they have been around much longer - perhaps 12,000 years or longer. Just for the record...

  3. Logan - Thank you for taking the time out to answer questions for my mom :)! I have a question for you:

    I know she touched on the Mayan calendar, however do you have any thoughts onto the theories of planet Nibiru??

  4. And yes and no Lisa. Grey Wolf's fables are based upon actual creation beliefs -- probably 80% truth and the rest a little elaboration and speculation. But most interesting however you look at it.

  5. no problem Logan! Either way, it's a long time!

  6. HI Logan,

    My name is Robin Calkins and I am Lisa's critique partner and friend. I know she is thrilled to have you guest on her blog. Your post is very interesting. My husband is (I believe a sixteenth) Apache from his father's side, and I have always been interested in the native American cultures.

    Also, our family has always been a big fan of science fiction and fantasy. My son is a huge Star Wars and StarTrek fan. X-files was a staple in our weekly television fare. He and his dad would watch all kinds of alien programs. We were watching some home movies just last week, and one of the 'scenes' was Dillon (my son) working on a Star Trek model, telling his sister (Cassidy) that he was trying to decide if she was an alien and what kind she might be.

    Needless to say, I have always speculated about other life in the universe and I find Ancient Aliens fascinating, when I watch it. I lean toward the fantasy/paranormal genre though. My book has a conceptual plane as a...yes, it is a character. There is also a spirit in the story.

    You talk about keeping editorial rights to your manuscript. My question is, what should a writer ask to retain when negotiating a contract with a publisher? Or, what should we make sure the agent asks for in that case?

    R G (Robin) Calkins
    Twitter: @rgcalkinswrites

  7. Hi Brandie: Although the name "Nibiru" is derived from theory first introduced by the late ancient astronaut writer Zecharia Sitchin and his interpretations of Babylonian and Sumerian mythology, before his death, Sitchin denied any connection between his work and various claims of a coming apocolpse, Having said that, collissions between the earth and other celestial objescts are inevitable - sooner or later -- today, next year, or a million years from now). It has happened in the past and will certainly - and eventually - happen again. There have been a number of objects identified that could be on a collission course with earth, but none in the very near future. Could there be a mysterious Planet X that is made of dark matter and undetectable by modern science that could collide with us? Sure - maybe. But I don't buy into the current theories about them. Not enough evidence. But keep in mind, we know so little about our infinite world that all things are possible. As far as pole shifts are concerned: Yes, I think earth has experienced these pole shifts in the past and will again - whatever (or whenever) the cause. Do I think this will happen in December to co-incide with the end of the Maya calendar? Could be. But I am not building an underground bunker on the chance. For one - such a bunker would probably be worthless, but more importantly, I believe in manifest destiny (not the kind our forefathers believed in, but the kind that says whatever will happen will happen). If the poles shift and climate changes radically or earthquakes destroy much of the world, then so be it. Some of us may survive, and if I am one of them, then I will deal with it, just like our ancestors dealth with the changing worlds of the past. If it wipes us all out, then what could I do to avoid that anyway? I acknowledge the worst could happen, and continue to hope for the best. If I am wrong, then perhaps my time on earth has ended. So be it. But I don't think I want to sit around and worry about world's end and waste my remaining time here being sick over an outcome that I can not change. I would rather live each day robustly - choosing to find hope for the future rather than doom. Does that make me an optimist? Sure. But Native Americans have always been optimistic about the future. Sometimes that didn't work out so well, but in the end, I think if anyone survives, it will be them. I suggest spending some time outdoors. Get familiar with the earth. Learn about its mysteries, understand it's beauty and power. Enjoy what it has to offer and get comfortable with what it. If surviving a calamity is in our future, those that know the earth the best will surely be the best equipped to survive in the new world, if survival is possible. And whatever you do, do not worry about the things you can not change. Hope for the future and be content in the present. The world is a beautiful and wonderful place, even for all its problems.

  8. Hi Robin: My advice, keep all the rights. You can assign first publication rights, or commonly called world rights, but just for the purpose of the first printing - or two at most. Having an agent can help with you what rights to assign, but make certain you retain full rights to your intellectual works. Most publishers know this and will not try to scam you. But always be careful and read the fine print and make certain you understand this. My trouble came with trusting a family friend to perform editing services and to recommend editorial changes. My fault was trusting they could do the work effectively. Perhaps they intented to do so. I believe that was the case anyway. But perhaps it was more of a project than they bargained for, or they tired of working on it or whatever, and when they sent it back with no major changes, only corrections and edits for spelling and grammar and such, it was at a very busy time for me and I made the mistake of trusting them to have done a great job. I did not read my own books for nearly a year after they were published and was appalled at the number of mistakes - obvious ones that should have been caught. But that was my fault for not doing a complete re-read after it was sent back. My "editor" subsequent said something electronically must have gone wrong at the time the final draft was submitted for printing because most of those mistakes had been corrected, and I will with hold my comments on that becauswe of the sensitive nature of family friends and relationships. I don't blame them -- ultimately I should have taken a final and careful look at the rework,but trusted them and was "too busy" to deal with it to meet publisher deadlines. That was a mistake. But the mistake was ultimately mine. But I will never be so careless again. And I would advise you - everyone - to make certain that last draft is really thye one you think it is - and have others read it too to double check.

    Best luck with your project. I too am a sci-fi, Star Trek, X-Files, Fringe and Alcatraz fan.

  9. Hello Logan and Lisa,

    I have to admitt, I do not know much about the ancient alien theories, but I find the subject extremely intriguing. Regarding the Mayan calendar, I agree with your comments, but it is interesting to observe the planetary and other changes taking place. Do you know anything about the pisean or aquaraian age?

    Lisa, would you post in information on this show, I would like to check it out.

    Thank you so much for taking time to share with us!

    Take care,

  10. Logan, in all your different projects and jobs through the years - radio, TV, books, and also business owner and family man - what would you say contributed most to your success? Commitment and hard work? Education? Luck? Imagination? I'd be curious for you to answer the same question Lisa. What one trait or factor do you think has been the most important to you while you have been working on your novel? What advice do you have for someone else trying to accomplish their life's work, or attain their own goals?

  11. It's really hard to just pick one thing, I would have to say I followed my heart and went for it! I am not successful as an author yet, my book is not finished, but what got me to this point is not giving up! The other, and probably even more important factor has been my family and friends encouraging me and putting up with my asking them to read my chapters and my critique partners, Robin, Janet, and my new group with HODRW. So, you see it has been a few factors, and I am sure I could list many more. The biggest advice I would give is never give up and be honest and humble. Listen to your heart, it always tells the truth!

  12. Jody, the show is on History channel 2. There are 2 history channels now, so make sure you go to #2.
    It airs on Friday nights at 8:00 our time, MST Thanks for your post!

  13. Hi Jody: Thanx for joining the conversation.

    I am better versed and more comfortable in researching and striving to understand the mysteries and myths of great American cultures. Having said this, it is impossible to escape the Maya, particularly, and their belief system which involves both astronomy and astrology, among other sciences and disciplines. We see very similar astological observations throughout the ancient cultures on not just the Americas, of course, but the world at large.

    Our transition from what modern astrology might call the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius is, of course, one of those great transitional events of the astrological (and astronomical) calendar, a time when the alignment of certain heavenly bodies, indeed celestial clusters, will directly provide influence on our big green planet and everyone on it. Many believe these influences drive our conscious awareness and even our destinies and I am not one to argue as there seems to be a great deal of truth in this.

    We know, for example, there are many 'signatures' out there in deep, dark space. There is more than one kind of matter; one kind of quasar, one kind of gamma radiation -- and so forth. We know there are millions of kinds of energy, sometimes dicernable from other types by the smallest detail; just like snowflakes are different and the DNA of rats and mice and men are very similar, yet vastly different. So it is fair to say that each energy in the infinite movement of the stars and planets and systems can and no doubt do provide very unique signatures that constantly bombard our every square inch of human existence and certainly must have some driving effect on who and what we are.

    My limited understanding of the transition to the Age of Aquarius is that it is an event that will take us into a higher level of consciousness and awareness; a time when we will be able to better tune our own energies to those of the larger universe; a time for spiritual awakening and so forth. Some might argue this is the next and progressive step toward truly understanding ourselves and our purpose - and that could well be.

    I spend so much of my time attempting to understand ancient belief systems that I rarely get the chance to 'specialize' in any one discipline. In other words, I spend time researching the lineage of dieties and gods of their intricate systems, what each stands for and what is/was their hidden purpose. Then I must switch to understanding how their zero-based mathematics came about and why, then change hats to understanding the symbolism of their architecture or ball courts, their costuming regalia and the meaning of the way they wear their jewelry and burn their incense and prepare their blood letting ceremonies. From there I study their crop choices, their harvest rituals, their belief in underground passages and the significance of animal types to their way of life and how they believe, to methods of war-ing and making love and cooking bread. The list goes on.

    But I do enjoy studying each aspect, including their astrological beliefs. I just very rarely get the chance to get versed enough to be considered an authority on any of the many thousands of aspects of ancient life. Perhaps a few hundred years of study would do it. I would certainly enjoy the chance!

  14. Logan, thank you for the information. When I'm ready to agent hunt and publish I will keep this in mind. And, thank you for guesting on Lisa's blog.

    Lisa, thank you for inviting Logan. His answers to your questions are very intriguing and informative. And, his answer to my question was most helpful.


  15. Hey there Jenna. Nice name. I have always liked that name. Okay -- this is a tough one to answer because I believe it involves a little of each thing you mentioned. We are what we collectively have experienced.

    Radio gave the chance to be very creative and a lifestyle free of many of the restraints of more typical, mainstream jobs. That changed down through the years and has now become just another job thanx to reliance on technology instead of imagination and individual talent. But back in the day it was a creative mill of fun, excitement and hard work rolled into one.

    Writing is a very good adventure as well. Keep in mind a professional writer often wears many hats. I do - and have throughout a 30 year writing career. My most profitable writing in recent years has been writing about agriculture. Yep -- farming and ranching. I do have an interest in grass root topics, but some writers would turn up their nose at writing farm pieces - either news or features. But I also write a lot of feature material, a lot of historical pieces, some travel stuff as well. And then both fiction and non-fiction for my books, so I get a chance to experience it all, and I like this.

    But my best experience comes from marrying my wife who worked in the airline industry. For $500 a year I could (and did) purchase a stand by ticket to as many destinations where the airline flew all year long. So needless to say I traveled a lot - even if it was just for a weekend in Central America. My wife and I would oftedn meet up at a flight destination where she was visiting for work. Sometimes I would strike out across the world to my own destination. My wife and I spent our honeymoon in a tent in Tikal.

    After a while, I took time away from radio to travel (and write about it) full time, and here is where I ran into University of Texas archeologists in smokey bars and restaurants in tropical jungles and coastal resorts down south of the border. I met a lot of freinds, spent a lot of time at dig sites, and had the chance to walk up just about every major pyramid in Central America at least once. I took up residence on the Mexican Caribbean coast for a year and learned a passion I shall never lose - an interest in the ancient cultures of the Americas.

    My advice: Do all you can do. Go to school and get those credits. Work hard and earn that money. Travel and discover cool places. And write your heart out.

    Times have changed so it is more dangerous now than in years past - maybe. But don't be afraid to grow. Just be wise about it, and try not to do it alone!

  16. Thank you Robin. I enjoyed meeting you!

  17. Logan,

    Thank you for your response. I believe we share a similar passion. I would love to have time to study each culture and belief system intricately including each science. I observe the similarities and differences and the quest in each. I have carried a book in my head for many years and it has become my opus. It's title is "Looking at Light through the Eyes of the Blind". It attempts to understand why we do what we do from biology to belief to physics to astromology and everything inbetween. Obviously, the research never ends, but I love it and carry it with me always. Thank you for sharing your time and thoughts.


  18. Thank you Jody! I look forward to your book!

    BRANDIE: Did I answer all your questions? I am a little lost at this hour. Be back in a bit...

  19. You take your time Logan, and let me know what time you want to end this. I know it's been all day, and you are more than welcome to say one more hour and that's fine!

  20. Logan, I am Lisa's sis and biggest fan! My apologies for not checking in sooner. Work kinda got away from me. I am guessing you may have already signed off, but I wanted to thank you for being on Lisa's blog. I just finished reading the conversation stream and found it fascinating. Lisa is much more familiar with your work, but I was pleased to learn that you approach your research as a scientist first, spiritualist second . . . or perhaps they go hand in hand. I guess what I'm trying to say is that with the richness of mythology, culture and belief systems, you still require evidential proof. Something I greatly respect.
    Anyhow, I really did not have a question so much as kudos to you. I am now intrigued to read your work (and I promise I'll disregard the typos, etc., and focus only on the content). Thanks!

  21. Hey Toni -- Still here. Just paused for a break. Nice to meet you, and I appreciate your comments. Searching for the truth means searching for the proof. Sometimes it just can't be found, covered up or lost or hidden out of view. But that never excuses us from looking for it.

    I do believe we have the poetic right to fill in the blanks when all the truth just can't be found. Positive speculation and deduction can be a good thing and can point us to the "most likely truth". But I also believe we have an obligation to make note when we do that so others will realize we are offering our best guess based upon the best facts we could gather. That is fair I think. Too many, however, jumped to conclusion to prove their point and forget to tell us they reached those conclusions on loose and incomplete facts. This, I believe, is wrong.

    Part of the problem - probably the biggest part when dealing with ancient American cultures -- is that my ancestors thought and spoke in a great deal of metaphor. We think literal and linear. They thought in allegory and metaphor, so it is sometimes very difficult if not impossible to connect all the dots. Finding common reference points are the key and that is sometimes possible, especially if you are visiting with a tribal elder and can compare notes in real time. But if you must rely on oral tradition passed down from the elders and no one understands those keys anymore, the job becomes extreme at best. Sometimes you just have to walk away shaking your head and saying "I have no real idea what they were referring to...".

    But then remember, the adventure is what makes the trip worth while, even if all the answers can't be found.

    Thanx wishes.

  22. Thanks For all you do Logan! Your the best! I owe you big time and would love to return the favor for you, just let me know! Thank you, Thank You! Have a wonderful evening!

  23. Thanx Lisa - and to all a good night.I have enjoyed your company throughout the day.

  24. Thank you Logan (and Lisa) I enjoyed the great questions and comments!! And of course I enjoyed the compliment about my name. ;)
    Good night all!